Several hundred acres in SW Vermont and adjacent New York State are being managed by Russell Wallack and others at Breadtree farms. As their name suggests, chestnut flour is a versatile gluten-free product that can be grown in the Northeastern US as it has been historically in temperate regions around the world. He is planting blight-resistant hybrids, along with hickory (for oil) and seaberry. The show was recorded in June 2025. The interview begins around 6 minutes in and ends 50 minutes in. After the interview are updates on biodiverse gardening, using multiple harvests from each bed that include wild plants.