Interview with Ben Falk, author of The Resilient Farm and Homestead, 2nd edition.  He shares 20 years of experience creating abundant landscapes, lessons learned by trial and error.  This is the May radio show at WBCR-LP Great Barrington, streaming at berkshireradio.org Mondays 10-11 AM EDT and also at the above.  The interview starts about 5 minutes in, after local announcements.